ENDOR: WAS IT SAMUEL OR AN IDENTITY THIEF?  (Part 2 of 2)

  1. The Case File Against Saul
For those in doubt as to who had appeared to Saul, 1 Chronicles 10:13-14 seems to be a casefile, listing the backslidden king’s crimes and the attracted sanctions.  For the proponents of the view that what appeared to Saul was not Samuel, there are many strong points to note from that passage.

13 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; 
14 And enquired not of the LORD: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse (1 Chronicles 10:13-14).
  1.   What Communion hath Light with Darkness?
Firstly, they point out that this passage clearly states that Saul died “for” and in “his transgression.”  They ask, Could a person in transgression, reinforced by a witch, have been able to compel a righteous soul from Paradise to a meeting at a strange altar in Endor?  Next, they ask, according to 2 Corinthians 6:14-16, “what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? … what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?”
 
  1.   Saul’s Two-Count Charge and Lingering Impenitence
They state, furthermore, that the case against Saul was no ordinary one but a two-count transgression: 1) “against the LORD,” and 2) “against the word of the LORD.”  That reference was to Saul’s sin of more than three decades before, in 1 Samuel 13:9-13, when he offered a sacrifice that he was not ordained to perform and was first renounced by God, and later when he spared Agag whom he should have killed, and got finally rejected by God (1 Samuel 15:17-29).
If the king had properly repented of his evil since that time, God could not have called it up again after blotting it out.  It is not in His nature to do so (1 John 1:9).  God’s recall of it at the end of Saul’s life meant that, in those many years, Saul never repented of his iniquity but rather went out murderously against whoever tended to challenge him, whether they were prophets or priests.  He killed the priests (1 Samuel 22:17-19), chased upcoming Davids out of town (1 Samuel 18:9-11; 19:10) and threatened even prophets as eminent as Samuel who had anointed him (1 Samuel 16:2).  None was safe while Saul raved, and people learned to be stooges who spied on one another to buy his wicked favour (1 Samuel 22:9-23).  Could a person in such deep transgression have called up the holy prophet?  They doubt.

The same voices he destroyed yesterday when he was strong were the same channels he was desperately seeking today in his vulnerability.  Unfortunately, those doors had been shut, and he was to blame.  If only he saw tomorrow…

  1.   The Additional Sin

Secondly, they point out that the same passage spotlights not only Saul’s fatal “transgression” but an additional abomination he also committed when he went “asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit… And enquired not of the LORD.”  In other words, the event at the altar of the witch was a further evil in addition to his many previous sins, which meant that Saul was an impenitent man even at the point he is purported to have been seeking the prophet.  If that visit was counted as “also” an error, or a further transgression, could the prophet of God have been part of such a flawed spiritual process?

  1.     If “not of the Lord,” then Who?

Thirdly, the passage states that the meeting at Endor was a meeting with “a familiar spirit”; it was “not of the LORD.”  The proponents of the view that the apparition was not Samuel wonder if anything could be clearer than this to show that neither God nor Samuel His prophet had any part in the proceedings at the altar of the witch of Endor.  If it was “not of the LORD,” if God was not in it, there could only be one other option: the devil.

  1.   The Clear Label

From that passage, they insist, fourthly, that the Bible did not only say that the session with the witch was “not of the LORD,” it went further to plainly identify and label the personality at that dark night show as “a familiar spirit,” which does not sound the same as “Holy Spirit” or “Prophet Samuel.”  They think it is blind foolishness then to describe the apparition at Endor as Samuel, especially as Light and Darkness do not dwell together (2 Corinthians 6:14-16).  They insist that in life or in death, the holy prophet could not have been part of a process that was “not of the LORD”; that he could not have had anything to do with “a familiar spirit.”

  1.    Does God Punish the Righteous?

Point No. Five: From 1 Chronicles 10:13-14, the Not-Samuel proponents are worried that God would punish Saul for getting a message from Samuel, if indeed it was Samuel.  They are persuaded that it is not in the nature of God to punish someone for doing what is right.

  1.   Important Pronouns

Point No six: They point out that the spirit which the witch summoned from out of the earth was not referred to as a “him” or “he” (which could have been the case if it had been Samuel), but as an “it,” which is curious, even in translation.

  1.    A Conflict of Two Kingdoms

Point No seven: They believe that when God said here, “You enquired of it and not from Me,” and proceeded to punish the man for the act, He was showing that “it” and ‘Me’” were two opposite personalities, two opposing camps.  In other words, God was clearly distinguishing and distancing Himself from the entire process in the sanctuary of the witch, and especially from the spirit that had disguised itself as the prophet of God.  Saul had two options: “to enquire of it” or “… of the LORD.”  He chose the wrong one and died for it.

  1.   Cause and Effects

Lastly, they find a significant link between verse 13 and verse 14 in 1 Chronicles 10. They point out that after the enumeration of Saul’s mortal sin in verse 13, the next verse begins with the word, “Therefore,” suggesting that verse 14 was a consequence of verse 13.  Saul could not have been reaping a bad harvest in verse 14 for sowing a good seed in verse 13.  At last, God killed Saul “and turned the kingdom unto David” for the failures highlighted in verse 13. Why would God go so far as relieving a man of his throne and taking his life if the act were such an innocent one after all, they wonder.

  1. The Exegetists

Among those who think that the apparition during the witch’s séance was a thief of Prophet Samuel’s identity are the exegetists. These, as one would say, find it very significant that King Saul and his team had an Unholy Communion with the witch, administered by herself the high priestess of witchcraft, with “unleavened bread” and a kind of Passover animal – a calf, at night, all in apparent reversal of the great Exodus Passover (v.24; Exodus 12:1-36).  They note that whereas the Israelites after that premiere Passover walked out of bondage into freedom, out of darkness into a new day, Saul proceeded from that blood covenant and communion with the dead into a lightless night from which he did not recover.  He walked out from that reverse Passover into darkness and death on Mount Gilboa (v.25).  They see the ominous setting of “that night” in that story as symbolic of the darkness into which the association with witchcraft drove the wayward king.  They point out that the romance with the witch led Saul into a battle he did not survive, as fellowship with Satan usually results in conflicts and calamities of huge consequences.

  1.   The Life-Applicationists

The Life Applicationists are a little more pointed.  Following up from the Exegetists, they warn, as one would say, that irrespective of the apparently extenuating circumstances or excusable ‘pressures’ of life that might push you to do so, if you consult witches and visit séances or diviners of any kind (even those who do so under the cover of a Bible), you bring upon yourself that sentence of death that God has passed upon all who do so; a generational death does not kill only you but also the sons that could have reigned after you.

  1.   The Last Straw…

Outside the debate on whether the apparition was Samuel, it appears to some that, despite Saul’s other sins, consulting the medium at Endor was the last error that finally nailed him; it was the “therefore” that hastened his death. That nocturnal visit, sealed with a reverse Passover officiated by a high priestess of darkness; that Communion with the dead in the desperate crave for a supernatural voice, was the last dangerous move that finally saw Saul out of the throne and sealed David’s place there.  Saul missed a last chance for righteousness.  It is fearful to think that one can backslide to the point where God shuts all channels of communication with them while they cry and die in their impenitence.

  1. What’s your Verdict?
Back to the debate.  What’s your verdict?  From the arguments so far presented, was it Prophet Samuel that the witch of Endor called up for King Saul, or was it an identity thief – something else that stole the prophet’s face and voice, pretending to be him?  Was it Samuel or a Satanic impersonation of the holy prophet, to fool the king with what had become his unhealthy obsession with the supernatural?  Did the witch at Endor call up Prophet Samuel, or she merely invoked a spirit of her dark kind?  What’s your verdict?
From The Preacher’s diary,
October 21, 2006.
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UCHECHUKWU AZUONYE
UCHECHUKWU AZUONYE
6 days ago

The arguments of identity thief is speculative, and imposes New Testament upon Old Testament realities.
The words of the person called up was that of Samuel. 1 Sam. 28:15 Why has thou disquieted me, to bring me up?
vs 17″And the LORD hath done to thee, as He spoke by me; for the LORD hath torn the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David.”
The impact on the witch in vs 12 was also a testimony that the person was Samuel.
God is sovereign and over-rules Satan and his agents.
The place of the dead then in the OT is totally different in the NT.

Caleb Yakubu
6 days ago

Indeed, the encounter of Saul with Samuel has been one of my mysteries in the bible. The matter hunts me. But the light that has been shaded on 1 Chron. 10:13-14 has settled the controversy for me.

However, I want to point out that the passage pointed out the fact that she consulted a familiar spirit but did not say it was a familiar spirit that she invoked for King Saul. It could still be Samuel.

The situation here is similar to Balak consulting Balaam. The Narrative from the perspective looks as if Balaam was a prophet of God until you read a bit further and learn that Balaam, who practices “black magic”, has been killed with a sword.

However, despite Balaam’s credentials as a black magician, God interfered with his trade to protect his own. When Balak sent his messengers, and Balaam consulted his shrine, it was not his usual demons who aided his trade that appeared; Jehovah himself showed up. He must have encountered him in the past because he knew what was up.

Just as God showed up in Balaam’s shrine when the destiny of Israel was an issue, you never think that it is too much for God to show up in the shrine of the witch of Endor. That apparition could be Samuel.

Sir, if God had allowed familiar spirits to minister to King Saul at that point, it would have been a transaction gone too far. I believe God intervened here for the same reason he won’t allow the messengers sent to Baalzebub to go but sent Elijah to interrupt the journey. He guards his territory. He can appear anywhere.

In conclusion, these are well-spelt-out theological perspectives, but they did not rule out the possibility that it was Samuel. The Psalmist said even if he made his bed in, hell, God is there. If God can be in hell, he can show up uninvited in a witch shrine to enforce and protect his territory.

ZIBAH VICTORIA C
ZIBAH VICTORIA C
6 days ago

First comment on the count charge against Soul,it’s more than two count charge, okay as you have stated the two count charge as disobeying the word of God and going to consult the witch, you know other counts charges I know against him is that he was working against the law he enacted himself, he was the one that asked all the witches in the town to be banished okay, he had to eat, the King of Israel had to eat in a witch’s house, you know and most of the time we know that their food is already sacrificed to their idol, and then the other account charge is that himself as well lied to the witch about who he was and who he wanted called up from the spirit for him.

Kingsley Eze
Kingsley Eze
6 hours ago

A very interesting debate. In the past, I glossed over this. But with “maturity” I entertain no doubts. It was an identity thief. A familiar spirit.
It is through God could manifest to gentile astrologers (Magi) and by means of their dark trade, reveal to them the gospel of the birth of Christ. The bible records the impact.

We have studied true prophets, false prophets and fake prophets. A prophet is false not because his predictions don’t come true but because of the source. The source of this activity is clearly the contrary kingdom. That the identity thief predicted correctly Saul’s soon to be death does not confer authenticity on it.

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